Question about IS_PAYING again

Sorry for the old question. Despite all the explanations about payment models, I still can’t figure out how to accurately determine if the current user is subscribed to the current actor rental — IS_PAYING is close, but not entirely accurate.

Saurav Jain•8/13/25, 8:15 AM

@Lukas Krivka can you help here please?

Saurav Jain•8/13/25, 8:16 AM

@!!!Joefree!!!

you need to elaborate little more

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 8:17 AM

from what I learn is that IS_PAYING indicates the user is subscribed to the platform, not to the current actor.

azzouzana•8/13/25, 8:57 AM

@!!!Joefree!!!

that's exactly how you're describing it.. And it has been like that forever..

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 9:39 AM

Does anyone have a code example to check if the current user actually has rental access to the current actor, so I can copy it

BytePulse Labs•8/13/25, 11:54 AM

What is the use-case? Aren't all users of rental actor by definition paid users (minus users on free trial)?

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 11:59 AM

that’s it, I want to apply a data limit on the 'Free Trial', but it’s difficult to know the free trial status.

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 12:01 PM

chatGPT said "Apify gives you the user ID and account plan, but not a built-in “is this user subscribed to this actor” flag — you must track subscriptions yourself or deduce from plan + usage limits."

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 12:04 PM

... so I can prolong the free trial period, say 30 days, without worrying about 'Free Trial Abuses.'

Lukas Krivka•8/13/25, 12:29 PM

I don't think you can get the info about rental. It is really just "IS_PAYING indicates the user is subscribed to the platform"

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 12:57 PM

Thanks for the clarification @Lukas Krivka . So there’s no solution for my use case… or is there? Any plan to add something like a free trial status, IS_TRIAL? Or does this use case just not make sense at all ?

Lukas Krivka•8/13/25, 1:21 PM

Currently, there is no way. We are deprioritizing rental so not sure if the team would want to add this

aciku•8/13/25, 5:16 PM

Maybe the closest approach would be to track the user’s first run ID and when it happened, and store it in the user’s key-value store, your own, or an external database. Then you could compare it with the current date to see if the free trial has expired. I think that usually, when they test the actor, they do the run (the problem is that it’s not always the case, so it’s not 100% reliable)

!!!Joefree!!! 👑OP•8/13/25, 6:37 PM

Thanks for the suggestion @aciku . I can track it the way you described, but the problem remains: when should I stop tracking? How can I know the free trial status? What if the user subscribes before the trial expires, etc.?